Tech information furnished by Todd Ballard
enjoyed doing this conversion. This was very surprising because I really did
not have fun installing the saganaw steering gear in front of the crossmember.
My Cruiser is kind of unique so anything might be different for your
application. However, there was very little information on the Astro box when I
did this, so Iím hoping others might at least be able to get some ideas from
thing you have to do is find a donor Astro Van. Iím sure your neighbor will
never figure out it was you that stripped his van in the middle of the night. A
pick and pull might be safer though. Most Astros came with 4.3L V-6s. This is fortunate for us CSB fans as
everything on the front of the motor is the same. In fact, if you just want to
do the serp belt, most any 5.0L, 5.7L or 4.3L equipped car or van from the 80s
will do. One with a lot of power accessories will have the biggest alternator.
coolant and the p/s fluid. It is, of course, best to evacuate the A/C system
with the proper recovery system, but youíre at the pick and pull so do what you
bolts that secure the doghouse come through under the hood. It is probably
easier to get the support brackets on the back of the alternator and the A/C
compressor from inside.
the A/C, alternator, water pump and upper radiator hose. You donít need the
water pump. Any water pump will work, but it needs to be out of the way. You
can pull the four bolts that hold the fan on, or just leave it on the water
pump when you pull it off. Pull the lines from the back of the p/s pump. Donít
cut the high pressure line. Youíll have to pull the upper radiator shroud as
all of the bolts from the giant mount that holds everything. There are a few
bolts down low by the oil pan that are easy to miss. Save all of the bolts.
didnít have to pull the radiator. YMMV. The Astro has a lot of room in front of
the engine for a van. In fact, I can tell you from first hand experience that a
350 fits right in the cradle with plenty of room to spare.
the crank pulley as well. You donít need the harmonic balancer, so you donít
need a puller. Pull the main bolt, and the outer bolts and tap on the outer
pulley, itíll come right off.
the pittman arm at the center link. You probably wonít use it, but itís easier
than separating it at the sector shaft now, and you might use it. Pull the
little bolt from the steering column up high. Save the slip joint and the
u-joints. Pull the three bolts from the steering box where they come through
the frame. Save these bolts, youíll use at least two. They are grade 8 and
tapered at the point.
are not doing the serp belt, pull the hoses at the pump and get the
hose-to-pump adapter. It is a 1Ē nut that threads into the pump. Astros use
late model high pressure fittings with an o-ring. If you have an earlier p/s
pump it will work except for the hose. You can get a custom hose with different
fittings at each end, or you can just grab this fitting and thread it into your
the hardware store and get a 24Ē chunk of ĹĒ pipe, a 7/8Ē hole saw and I used
some ľĒ angle iron, but I think most folks wonít. Youíll see what Iím talking
about in a bit.
the left fender, bib and radiator. You could do it without, but why?
everything off of the front of the motor. Install the serp belt system. You can
leave of the whole A/C part of the bracket and get a belt for a non-A/C astro,
or leave it on and install a second alternator, on-board air, or even A/C in
itís place. I plan on putting a second alternator there and using it for a
welder and perhaps to power a 110v ac compressor. There is another spot below
the A/C for yet another accessory, but it is pretty snug to the battery tray.
I used two big welding clamps to line up the gear box. I
cut the radiused corner off of the cross member to clear the p/s box. I lined
up the bottom two bolts as close to the bottom of the frame as I could and
still reinforce the bolts with the ĹĒ pipe. The frame dips down right there and
gives a very slight upward angle to the gear box. This is a good thing. There
is a little bit of frame that sticks out. I ground this off, but in retrospect
I could have left it on.
I got it all lined up, then marked where the holes should
be and cut the first one. I ended up hitting a rivet inside the frame because I
cut it so close to the bottom. I just cold chiseled the head off. I used the
7/8 hole saw and cut all the way through both frame walls. Some folks that
really abuse their rigs might want to make a spud plate with welded on spacers,
but I ran the pipe all the way through and used it as a spacer.
promptly cut the second hole in the wrong place. Doh! I was able to make the
hole oblonged to line up, but I should have drilled through with a long 1/8Ē
bit first to make sure, then followed with the hole saw.
put the bolts through the pipe and snugged them down against the gear. I could
then line it all up and tack weld the pipe in place. Then remove the pump and
weld it in very solid. Reinstall the bolts nice and tight. The stock bolts fit
nicely here and have grade 8 washers too.
bolt is about 1Ē above the frame. A spud plate could be used as could a
triangulated-braced angle iron. I used the ľĒ angle iron welded both sides to
the frame. Then I put another chunk of ĹĒ pipe in the cradle formed by the
angle and welded it in solid. The big difference is I have squared off the tops
of my frame rails so it was flat there. Yours will probably be angled.
input shaft is splined to a ujoint rather than a rag joint as on most GM
applications. This gives a lot more clearance, but the joint is kind of small.
Iím using it right now. Weíll see if I need to upgrade. The other part of the
u-joint is a double D shaft. It is the right size for most late model and import
steering shafts. It fit nicely on my mini truck shaft with little modifications.
It should move a inch or so, but not come off without removing the column or
radiator is a tight fit on the box. There is a big lug on top of the box that
seems to have no purpose. I think it can be ground off. The radiator support
frame can also be notched. There is a good two inches before the bottom tank of
the radiator on that side. Mine needed neither modification because I have a 2Ē
body lift and an electric fan. I just put two chunks of 2Ē square tube under
the radiator support. The support bolts through the top and new bolts through
the bottom of the tube and through the mounts. It actually clears my water pump
much better now.
a drop pittman of unknown origion. I am looking for a Cherokee pittman I bought
for the saginaw conversion and couldnít use because it was too short. It might
work now that the box is much closer to the correct position. E-mail me and
Iíll let you know if it fit. The relay rod is about 2 inches forward of the tie
rod with the arm I have now. The stock Astro arm will work if you placed your
box with the holes below the frame, although, again, the throw might be too
short for the wheels to turn all the way. The one I used was pretty long and
had about a 1Ē drop that cleared the front cross member nicely.
lines on. The Astro lines can be used, but arenít the best fit. I donít know
what application will fit better yet. Put the fender and the bib back on and
hook the lights and horns back up and youíre good to go. No more Armstrong
steering or no more sag box hanging out in front. No more tightening 3 or 4
belts. One with a self tensioner is much nicer. One 5/8 wrench will pop your
belt on and off.
around I think this set up works nicely. Hope it gave you some ideas.
Todd Ballard ~ email@example.com